Hypocritical Tottenham: We Don’t Want To Pay Top Whack For Arshavin - Er…Sound Familiar?
August 30, 2008
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Andrei Arshavin, mightily impressive in his second half cameo in Zenit’s relatively comfortable victory over United in the UEFA Super Cup, will not be joining Tottenham just yet - so reckons Zenit manager Dick Advocaat.
Arshavin has been valued by the Russian side at £22 million but Spurs are apparently unwilling to meet the asking price, Advocaat revealed:
“Tottenham offered £16m and that’s not enough, so that’s the end of it.”
“They (Tottenham) had several weeks of time to buy him and they did not offer £22m like everybody has been writing, but just £16m, I think that Arshavin costs more than £16m.”
Surprise, surprise.
Silly money is being touted for players past their mid-twenties and clubs are reluctant to cough up the asking price. Sound familiar?
Whilst United are arguably more set on Berbatov than Spurs are set on Arshavin it makes a mockery of Daniel Levy - and the Spuds fans’ - insistence that full price has to be paid for a player.
That same shibboleth has been knocked out for weeks in the comments section of this website and elsewhere from indignant Spuds fans: “Pay Up Or Shut Up”….or, “It’s this simple: Berbatov costs £30 million - pay that or go away”.
Whilst Levy’s apparent intransigence on the Berbatov fee has met with approval from Spurs’ fans, it goes against the very nature of most business: unlike your average punter, businessmen don’t usually buy an item at the list price, they negotiate the price down to a figure that works well enough for both parties.
To insist that it is some kind of noble truism that “the price is the price is the price”, is just plain daft and motivated out of bitterness more than anything else.
Whilst we can sympathise somewhat with Spurs’ desire to hold on to Berbatov or extract the most from his departure, Advocaat’s revelation shows they are being more than a tad hypocritical.
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Spot on!, we have money but wont spend it where it counts thats why we wont break into the top 4!
Slight difference in that Arsavin wasnt tapped up.
Interesting…
We don’t want to pay their asking price, so Zenit won’t sell. Simple. We haven’t whinged about it at all. We’ve left it and pursued other interests, unlike a certain club that have tapped up the player, offered pittance for him, moaned when we wouldn’t bend over and get shafted and have now become like the skid mark in underpants in that you won’t just go away!
Slight differences between the two situations.
Why is it hypocritical???
Spurs made an offer that wasn’t accepted - end of story. You don’t keep reading media reports about them slagging Zenit off and blaming them for seeking the best price for their best player and then going in with the same offer and a tad more.
As a Man U fan, I cannot understand why we keep making offers that are less than the asking price. We need a striker and have the money so why not pay.
Indeed we did not allow Ronaldo to join Madrid??? even though he wants too - How can we blame Spurs, without looking at ourselves first.
berba is prem proven
arshavin isnt
so its a gamble
Do you not realise that at the moment they (tottenham) have the player you want. Of course they are going to demand max. money and just because Zenit are publically saying they want top money do you think that they will pay it?
At the end of the day the weakest postion is the buyer as worst case they keep berbatov.
Barry - tell me where United have ever whinged about the price. The only people who have ever directly referred to the price and the journos, the fans and the bloggers.
It’s the same situation - Spurs have been stalling for time over the Arshavin situation because they want to negotiate a better price, exactly like United and Berbatov.
People make a fuss about United tapping up Berbatov - that’s bullcrap. United have only ever expressed an interest - once the player’s agent tells the player about it, of course his head is going to be turned….but is that ‘tapping up’? Not in my book.
spot on othello. also not mentioned in this stupid article berba is already proven in the english PL and will score more goals than arshavin so berba is worth more . typical article written by an uneducated man u fan.
i am a spurs fan and i totally agree with you {although it hurts to agree } just hurry up and take that bulgarian tw*t off our hands
Who am I?
Yeah my multi millionaires in suits are just the best and their business practices are second to none. Everybody elses men in suits have to be bad and wrong, because I happen not to support their football team. One of theirs called one of mine a hypocrite, so I’m sending the whole summer defending mine and thinking up any way I can throw that hypocrite jibe back at the horrible man who said it first.
I’m going to write it all down on my silly little site, and whatever happens in the transfer world, you can be sure I’ll be here talking absolute crap.
I believe that if my club wants a player they should be able to bully the others into getting them. If they happen to want more money than we are willing to give them (despite our apparent status as biggest club in the world!?!?) then I’ll get back on my silly little site and cry about it, in the hope that this will make everybody see just how my millionaires in suits are just soooo great compared to everyone elses.
And if that other club then wont pay the asking price for a player ever again, then that just makes me so right that I can hold my head up high in the Milton Keynes branch of Primark, and isn’t that what it’s all about?
Poor Utd, I remember the days when they got the players they wanted, mugs.
The trouble is Zenit are so difficult to communicate with. And their Chairman is ………..different.
Oh No………..Hang on……..
You utd fans crack me up,
who the f*ck do you lot think you are? levy has you by the bo1locks and its a refreshing change. If man utd want Berbatov then pay what we value him at! We valued Arshavin at 16m, Zenit value him at 22m so that means that no deal will be done. You dont see spurs coming out and saying things like ‘its hard to comunicate with some people, or Advocate is different.
You need Berebatov, because you lot are looking poor up top, so the onus is for you to pay spurs what we want for him, otherwise do one!
Levy p1ssing all over the mighty reds, laughing my arse off!
kin ell dunlop….are you just an idiot or some kind of wannabe anti-capitalist? Welcome to the world, sunshine…it’s run by millionaires in suits. the reason we get worked up about football is cuz its football and not because of the money….
Berba is 30m because man u enquired about him. Spurs told them he was not for sale, but they still continued to put a bid in and unsettle him. Just the same as what happened with Robbie Keane and liverpool, except liverpool put their money were their mouth was. Man U knew the price. Put up or shut up.
How on earth is this hypocritical? You don’t want to pay 30mil and we don’t want to buy Arshavin at 16-18mil.
Where’s the hypocriscy? Please tell me…
I guess neither of us will get our man then. Spurs fans would be happier with that than MU fans.
When your team is crying out for a player like Berbatov who can play with his back to goal and score/create a bunch and is being touted by your own fans as your next Cantona then no you don’t haggle over the price at the risk of not getting him. You get him in without delay.
He’d be a much bigger player at MU than Tevez and the asking price is less.
Thou doth protest too much
What Spurs do is our own business you dont hear us constantly whinging about Zenit do you,plus we approached zenit in the proper manor the same cannot be said of manu
Ronaldo to Madrid? My you “mancs” have such short memories
Everybody seems to forget that a players value is determined by what a prospected buyer is willing to spend as well as what the current contract holder beleives he deserves. IF after rounds of negotiating the fee, they reach an agreement you will then see the current market value for that player. Tottenham approached Zenit regarding Arshavin and placed a bid. Zenit responded by informing spurs what they wanted for their Star. Since then 7 weeks has passed and no agreement has been reached as yet, clearly indicating that despite the best efforts of all involved Spurs and Zenit value Arshavin differently. This is unfourtunate but this is Football. Now we look at what United have with Berbatov, For 18 MONTHS they have wined and dined Berba and his agent, Then once they reached agreement with the sulk they put in an offer of about 10 Million less than Spurs see he is worth. Unfourtunately for Red Nose the next stage of the transfer (NEGOTIATIONS) couldn’t take place because of His disregard for other clubs in the first place. I’m only too sure that if things were done properly You too, could have had 7 weeks of disagreement before signing the player. What will be closer come monday? Berba to united for £20m? or Arshavin to Spurs for £17.2m? We wait with baited breath! but I’m sure that will indicate to all the best way to conduct your business Good Luck
Berba has scored around 50 prem goals in 2 seasons which is why were asking for 30 mill, arshavin isnt proven so we aint gonna gamble 20 mill. plus after u dirty northeners skanked us out of carrick and liverpool done us on keane were probably thinkin f*** u, and for once man u aint gettin there own way (which theyre used to) and they dont like it! you have to go through the lows to appreciate the highs which is why all the glory hunters are passionless fans, scumbags
Why don`t you understand , you (man utd) tapped him up . plain and simple , and one way or another you will pay for it . If CR7 is worth 60 mil plus then Berbatov is worth 30 mil and if you don`t like it then jog on . If we don`t think Arshavin is worth that then we will walk away but you mugs don`t seem to understand that. Pay up or walk away. This is costing you points and the super cup , if fergie had`nt had opened his big mouth you would have had him long ago and for about 22 mil , you would also have won last night and been sitting on top of the league. Want to blame somebody , blame red nose.
The difference is that we don’t want to sell Berba - we’re only buying Arshavin as a replacement for him. So if we buy Arsh we’ll probably let Berba go, if not then he’ll probably stay.
Therefore we’re the ones in no rush to pay over the odds to get Arshavin - if we don’t get him then we’ll carry on anyway with a (sulking) Berba.
I think its great that people who live in somerset are posting articles about a team in manchester.
manchester utd really have great fans.
its not even hypocritical,,,
do you even understand what that means in Somerset?
zenit want more than we want to pay, hence no deal
spurs want more than Utd want yo pay, ence crying and moaning people in somerset.
Fair comment Barry.
The problem with Zenit is that they originally quoted a lower price, which Spurs met and then moved the goalposts. The agent was furious. Arshavin is unproven in the Prem, he may be another Rebrov. Whereas Berbs was 6th top scorer & 6th highest in assists last season (also hit the post the most???) 46 goals in 101 games.
Tottenham said We don’t want to lose Berbatov, but if he has to go the price is £35m to Prem club, £25m abroad. They want £30m Utd want to offer £25m; This is ridiculous, neither club is destitute, split the difference and agree on £28m. That is a fair price for an excellent forward.
PS Why has the fool who wrote this tripe not put his name to it?
After watching Arshavin last night I would not pay the money they want.Berbatov is proven he is a spurs player not a utd one so if you want him cough up if not shut up.Simple as that.
Barry - ..”as a united fan” - united fan, my arrse, you dickhead. This is a grand example of Spur’s fan’s hypocritical attitude. They keep saying we tapped up Berbatov. No. We made an offer. Where and how did we tap him up? Spurs fans are just bitter because thay are sh1t and Berbatov awants to play for a decent club. If Berbatov was tapped up, so was Arshavin. So was Ramos. Spurs fans, stop f****g bleeting. You’re worse than the bin-dippers
Stupid article……….
Two things you missed:
1. Arshavin is not Berbatov
2. Arshavin was not “tapped” up
You ManUre fans are so fickle
you spuds fans are sweet. No mug is ever going to say United are whiter than white, but you keep on harping on about United having tapped Berba up - how, when? Were you there with Dantchev and Berba and some faceless United corporate lackey in their secret trysts? No - so you are relying on speculation, hearsay and the long-standing hatred of United.
The facts are - United initially made an offer for berba when Jol was still in charge (Jol confirmed this himself during the summer) for 22 million - this was turned down.
United came back with a bid earlier this summer with the same bid and then upped it to 25 million apparently.
Levy’s whole stance is based around the bitter realisation that you guys take one step forward to go to steps back….Catch 22 and all that. And the dossier is a disgrace - it only embarrassed him and the club - not United. Base on hearsay and bullsh1t.
The difference between Zenit and Spurs - Zenit acknowledge that Arshavin wants to move on to better things and think he should be offered that chance. Spurs on the other hand are simply p1ssing in the wind with Berbatov.
And before you even shout Ronaldo - i think we should have sold the f*cker. Can’t stand him even though we’re half the team without him. The little gobsh1te should have been allowed to leave.
You need Berbatov, we not need Arshavin - simple as that really.
In both cases if you don’t pay the money you don’t get the player, so fu(king stump up Man Utd or fu(k off.
Ds1 you’re right on Ronaldo i agree with you feel the same about berbatov but you would not let Madrid dictate the price to you if they want him they pay your price not theirs
do you know what hypocritcal means?
Perhaps if United were willing to pay anything like a reasonable price for Berba, Spurs could offer the going rate for Arshavin, you moron. Why should we sell our best player on the cheap but pay full whack for a replacement? That would be sh1t business. But I suppose the ‘world’s richest club’ would have trouble understanding that, since it’s up to its eyeballs in debt.
DS1, Have you read the dossier then? What does it say? Why is it reported that man u want spurs to drop it if they agree a price for Berba? Do you really think spurs would submit a dossier on hear say? Don’t be stupid!
Typical Manure! Just like the Barry situation. Pay what Villa want or FO mate. Sonds like sour grapes to me…………….
Fergie’s quote on SKY Sports News last month: ‘We have made a bid for a ‘PLAYER’ which will enhance our squad’. Can any moronic Spurs fans tell me where in that sentence has there been a mention of Berbatovs name?? how many more times are you pr1cks going to mention the issue of tapping up when his name wasn’t mentioned at all.
Carrickshair: You are a total c*nt, why don’t you jog on. As I said Berbatovs name wasn’t mentioned by Fergie, so how the f*ck can that be deemed as tapping up?? It was the two bob newspaper known as the Sun who put two and two together, but typical c*nts like you who buy that newspaper, took one look at that and took it as gospel. As for losing points in the league and losing out on the Super Cup, two things:
1. We are already 4 points clear of you in the league without the services of Ronaldo.
2.Gutted to lose out on the Super Cup, but at least we had an opportunity to play for it, as we are the EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS - your team will never be in a position to even lose such a game.
Oh and on the issue of CR7 and 60mill….that was a price that Real were willing to pay, not a figure we quoted, we stated from the outset that he was not for sale at any price, whereas your four eyes w*nker of a chairman is trying to get a certain fee from us to allow the transfer to go through. Please read up on your facts before piping up, otherwise f*ck off and post crap on your own two bob website. Top 4?? you’re not even good enough to compete with the likes of Portsmouth or Villa for a top 6 finish!
As far as berb situation is,why couldnt all this rubbish be sorted out behind closed doors …..no need to tap anyone! just straight requests and offers legitimate..
Sir Alex could offer some kind recompense like Benitez at liverpool for the percieved arrogance and hypocrisy shown by Man U
and reset the negotiations etc ……show Mr levy some respect and visa versa
Arshavin is one of many considerations
also in light of the Fact,Spurs have been very busy in the transfer market this summer,
the Bank balance has to be met for the shareholders at the end of the day so careful considerations in credit crunch times are essential
Berba is a world class player i would suggest the Champions league winners
can sort the deal in a way where everyone is ok ……
Berba is no good at spurs if he doesnt want to stay….lets all move on
its looking very childish with so much money at stake and is an insult to hardworking people who pay at the turnstiles…….
Very very bored - funnily enough no I haven’t seen it, but Levy’s embarrassing statement on your website was clearly motivated by the Sun reports off the back of that Norwegian fan site ‘misunderstanding’.
But tell me - what did the FA have to say about it, hmmm? And has it been supplemented as requested? In for a penny in for a pound or you look a schmuck.
Berbatov will join United for 28 million - meaning:
1. Levy looks a fool
2. All you Spuds fans who have lionised him all summer and written reams on how proud you are about his stance - look mugs.
Do i think the nature of modern football business is pretty or gentlemanly? No… of course not, but that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
Console yourselves with the facts that United are one nasty turn more in the credit crunch from being well and truly fukked.
DS1 there are different ways of tapping up a player you know, if manure make it known they want a player and turn his head (like pool and Barry and Keane) then that is also a form of tapping up is it not. Villa have made a stand with Barry, Manure made a stand with Ronaldo, we made a stand with Berb and Zenit made a stand with Arshavin, and so it goes on. You manure fans are so pompous and smug, yet Berbatov is a spurs player and he has a contract with us. If you want him, then pay the money and buy him. If you are not happy with the price then look elsewhere, end of story. Levy is not pissing about, he has put a price on a player that he hopes will be enough to put you off, cos believe it or not, we like to keep our best players if possible. Liverpool did similar with Keane, we overpriced him but they wanted him. They paid the money, they now have him. Easy really. The only pissing about is from old whiskey face himself. Pay the money or bugger off.
kings you are a total cvnt of course Berba was tapped up pay 30m or win fvck all this season
It isn’t hypocrytical at all you muppet.
We don’t want to sell Berbatov to Manure unless they pay us £30m we are quite happy to keep him.
We don’t want to pay £22m for arshavin. We are quite happy not to get him unless Zenit reduce the price.
Where is the hypocrisy?
Do one you muppet from the Manure heartland of sommerset.
fa rules
the regulations are intended rather to straighten out the slovenly grey areas which have always characterised football’s dealings. The Stevens inquiry - about whose effectiveness many in football remain sceptical - was better on the weaknesses in the game’s regulations and practices than on the alleged bungs it was set up to investigate and failed to find. The first report by Quest, the company Lord Stevens chairs, last December, “cleared” 95% of Premier League transfers of any wrongdoing, but did contain blasts of criticism. Clubs paid agents directly, conflicts of interest were rife with agents acting for both club and player in the same transfer, and the players themselves were “largely unaware” of the amounts of money their own agents were being paid by the clubs. Several clubs’ documentation was “vaguely worded” or actually false. Quest’s view of the FA’s performance was not pretty - it had, as a regulator, “failed”.
Rubbish
WE HAVE NOT ILLEGALLY TAPPED UP ARSHAVIN FOR A YEAR LIKE YOU HAVE BERBATOV
Dear DS1,
what does the FA have to say about this squalid little affair? About as much as the UN has to say about US foreign policy … hmmm?
And if - by your own admission - you haven’t even bothered to ready Levy’s statement then you’re in no position to claim anything about it, least of all that it was “embarrassing” or “clearly motivated by the Sun reports”. How pig-ignorant stooopid is that?
You need to pull your head out of your arse son and wake up.
Kings, you are an angry young man aren’t you. Makes me wonder why, the bragging of european champions and super cup blah blah blah, doesn’t seem to count to much does it. Why are you so bitter? Is it something that we said or is it the realisation that we have you by the balls and there is nothing you can do about it. Except of course to bow to our demands and pay the money. If Spurs had won the double I would be over the moon, not behaving like a spoilt moron who resorts to foul language to try to offend the opposition. I read elsewhere that you have to experience the lows to apreciate the highs. Thats ok, cos methinks you are gonna experience quite a few lows this year. And if you do get Berb then you better hope that he doesn’t have a dream next year that he wants to play for Madrid or Barca or Milan etc. cos you know whats coming….
plus…the north is sh*t. i know, i’ve been there. i’ll keep my visits a quick as possible next time. i don’t know how anyone could move there?
OMG only a biased ManUre fan would even begin to see the similarities here. Firstly how can you compare a regular, proven international and premiership goalscorer to an unproven infrequent goalscorer. Secondly there are not any bung, top up comissions etc that are going to have to be paid for anyone signing Arshavin and Finally Spurs were given permission to talk to Arshavin and did not have to tap him up illegally.
A question for all you whinning Northern glory hunters though is that if you are so darn confident that you don’;t want him then why are you all getting out of your prams on these blogs? You had both Tevez and Rooney playing last night and how many goals did they get? Without Ronnie you are just average and the fact is that Berba will better your team of that there is no question. Sadly he wants to play for you and every Spurs fan has seen many time what he is capable of when he is highly motivated. It is also the reason why we would love to keep him so if you want him you kjnow the price. Put up or shut up.Simple as that.
A simple question for DS21.
“But tell me - what did the FA have to say about it, hmmm? And has it been supplemented as requested? In for a penny in for a pound or you look a schmuck”
As you seem to purport to being party to the correspondence between the FA and both clubs perhaps you will enlighten us with detail. Of course if you are a pompous, self important prat that is just expressing his own opinion then it’s because you are challenged by the English language. My question is why, if there is no substance would United insist that any deal for Berbatov is predicated by the withdrawal of Levy’s complaint. If the media report is true, and you seem to beleive all the Hans Andersens that report football, why this condition? If there’s nothing to hide or defend what are United worried about? According to you, the only reason could be saving Levy’s face and feelings. Even a moron wouldn’t beleive United are so compassionate, do you?
To DS1:
“so you are relying on speculation, hearsay and the long-standing hatred of United.”
So let me get this straight. You accuse us of acting on hearsay then counter that by quoting your own hearsay?”
“United came back with a bid earlier this summer with the same bid and then upped it to 25 million apparently.”
Apparently is not fact but not to be unexpected. After all the rules apply to everyone except ManUre right?
Long standing hatred, press are all against us, blah blah? WHATEVER!
You are welcome to whatever paranoia turns you on. I actually quite like Utd who generally (Ronaldos diving and scholes’ volleyball excepted ) have always tried to play football the right way. Unlike Chavski and Liverbore.
However; We are Tottenham, WE HATE ARSENAL!!! END OF!
ManU are just anther club from up norf. Same as Liverpool or Man citeh to us.
Incidently we turned down £32m for Berbs from the big Manchester club. So why ManU keep piddling about with little funny bids is beyond me and a waste of everyone’s time.
Lets get this strory straight , spurs were in for Arshavin in Dec 07 /Jan 08 when the value was £8m.. but Zenit said they wouldnt sell him to Spurs till after the Euros. After the Euros Spurs went in for the same offer but Zenit said that he was £24m tripling the price. Hence why Spurs have offred £16m which is double the orignal price. Which is a very good offer.
The situation with Berbatov is different, the price has always been £30m for UK price & £25m in Europe, and was clearly stated that negotiations would comence if those offers have been met. Which to this date has not changed. Why does Fergie have to keep going on about all this. If he wan’ts him then pay up & shut up. Trying to offer £20m or £25m is not going to get him anywhere. Why can’t he conduct his business quietly and end this fiasco that he has cause.
Berba-who?!
deceny - challenged by the English language? Don’t think so, spud boy.
You think your carefully crafted screed is anything other than lame sophistry and boring at that?
I very much doubt United will insist the dossier is withdrawn. Their bullish position about the dossier stems from the fact that they know that Levy’s claims are unsubstantiated or inapplicable. The dossier is merely a case of Levy letting his anger get the better of himself - trying to play David to United’s Goliath. The deal isn’t predicated on the withdrawal of the dossier at all.
(By the way …golly gosh….what a clever you boy are knowing the meaning of the word ‘predicated’. Bet your superior knowledge of the Englsih language makes up for winning furk all except the worthless cup for years….)
Spurs have gone through all the right channels to sign arshavin. And get this, we were given permission to speak to Arshavin. Unlike a certain arogant English club who have blatantly been tapping up Berbatov for the past 2 years.
FLMAOOOOOOOOO DS1 is that all ya got? We challenge your biased rantings and point out the FACT that you are wrong and THAT is all you can come back with? Does all that Rain in Manchester make yer brain go soggy? Oh sorry I forgot, 99% of you ManUre fans have never been within 100 miles of Old truffle. Too funny at the goliath argument. I spose that you’ll be telling us next that every dog has it’s day and that Zenit just got lucky on the night last night? Ha friggin ha! You were weighed, you were measured and you were found lacking! Spurs might not win anything this year but at least we are not expecting to or think it is our right to. Heres a news flash 4 ya Chelski to win the premiership, You lot wont even get past the CL semis and I wouldnt mind even betting on City finishing higher in the league than your glory hunting selves.
Brilliant, be this plank wishes he didnt write this blog now.
To write a good article u need all the angles, take ya red blinkers off mate.
Can’t wait for the credit crunch to hit you and the banks to start calling in the debts of the Glaziers, thats why you won’t pay the 30mil we want.
What a crap article..one MASSIVE thing you fail to point out here is that Berbatov is PROVEN in the premier league and is worth the money as he has been a top player for 2 seasons now in the prem league. Arshavin is a gamble at such a high price as we do not know if he will cut it here. So therefore i think spurs are well within there rights to ask for slightly more to sell a proven premiership striker plus there best player to a team in the same league, than zenit asking fo more for arshavin being unproven coming to a new league.
i think he been told!!
Why do spurs fans keep saying we tapped up Berbatov???? Tapping up is illegally aproaching the player without the consent of the club to whom he is contracted? This has not happened. If it has, can any spurs fans tell me who did this and when? In the Ronaldo case, it was our ex-fitness coach Walter Di Salvo who met Ronaldo secretly : http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1274353.ece
This constituted, in the minds of many, more than just a social get-together, as Di Salvo works for Real. This was followed by Daily declarations by Real to Marca that they intended to Sign Ronaldo and what life would be like for him when he arrived in Madrid, despite our repeated declarations that he was not for sale.
The very most we can be accused of is destabalising the player by making an offer for him, which the player has become aware of. We have not named the player in the media and NO ILLEGAL APPROACH HAS BEEN MADE. What is all this tapping up nonsense about?? All the deluded idiots who support loser-Spurs here need to ask themselves who has made an illegal approach?? please tell me when you’ve thought about it because I’m clearly missing something you poor deluded tw*ts
Spuds - you’re such suckers. You think these guys don’t want you to come on here wasting your energy writing all this pap?
They get paid for ads every time someone lands on the page. They’re probably laughing all the way to the bank.
Jimmy’s on weed carry on believing Sir Red Nose and his saintly actions. Just roll up another one and convince yourself of the moral high ground
Jimmy - That was not me, that was unfortunately the Outer Hebrides branch of the Tottenham Hotspur supporters club misquoting me.
So I see Ds21 has moved from being an insider knowing all to ” very much doubt” a bigger conversion than Saul. Being so superior with your knowledge aren’t you aa bit embarrassed by referring to me as a spud. I always understood that it was the slang for a potato and find it a little telling on the users of sad “look at me I’m so witty” so-called fans. for your information I am not s Spurs(correct spelling) fan but have followed a Conference side for many years. There I meet real fans unlike the morons that know everything , in general they have a wide knowledge of football rather than slavish devote their lives to following whoever’s in fashion nomatter where they are. I just din’t like your demeanin posts too other fans. I have actually met some decent United fans who live in the Manchester area and feel them somewhat sullied by plastic fashion hunters. Blimey as a neutral I’ve started to like Chelsea now. At least you’ve achieved something.
decency - Sale, M33 for your information. United fan for 35 years.
I’m still waiting for a spurs fan to tell me who did the tapping up and all I’m hearing is hot air, as usual. F****g losers with nothing of substance to say?
Decency, you’re just demeaning(correct spelling) yourself, d1ckhead
The big difference is Berbatov is worth Spurs asking price. Arshavin isn’t worth his asking price
I know he didn’t get a full game last night but Arshavin looked ordinary. The guy they’ve bought to replace him looked anything but. We will see whether Berbatov turns out to be worth the money. He’s gonna need to thump about 30 goals a season in for the next 3 years
Red Ken - Who are the hell are you to say that I am not a United fan???
People like you give us true fans a bad name!!!! Am I not a fan because I tell the truth or give an opionion without slagging the opposition off????
Face it, we have not be honourable in our actions, just as Spurs were not in getting Ramos.
There is major differences between the Berbatov & Arshavin transfers. Even a 5 year could tell you that.
Barry, the reason I doubt your credentials as a fan is because, even though we are not in the wrong here, and certainly not in the way that many spurs fans allege, you still see things from their perspective. Why don’t you just start supporting Spurs then (Though I suspect you do already), being as you seem to be wearing the same fantasy-island goggles as the ones they all seem to be sporting. “Face it, we have not been honourable in our actions”. Fool - we made an offer for a player. They are within our rights to reject it, as we are to leave them with him for their star-studded reserves side. People like me give us true fans a bad name? People like you attempt to give Spurs fans a good name, but you don’t do a very good job
What a complete plonker you are.
Please tell me where in my article I am praising Spurs???
All I am saying is that we have acted not differently to what Real Madrid did with Ronaldo. Do you like the way the went about it??? I guessing not - in which case you are the hypocrit.
Anyway I would rather get an out an out goalscorer - Berbatov would be a good addition to our squad, but we still would not have a natural goalscorer.